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Ok in answer to your question, I am not happy using the IA rules to supersede GW rules that are still currently in print. The fact that you have to pay more for Rhino's is just the way it is. BA Razorbacks cost more than regular ones, there are countless other examples where similar units have different costs depending on which Codex you are using. I am afraid that is just the way it is and GW rules will always take precedent over IA ones.

Its a resounding no from me on that point.

Regarding your second question I think you have misunderstood what we are talking about. We are saying that protruding weapons are ignored for targeting purposes when shooting AT vehicles, as per the 40k rule book. Shooting from vehicles you always trace LOS from the point where the weapon meets the hull of the vehicle, again as per the rule book. So in your example, following the rule book you draw LOS from the point where the exorcist launcher meets the tanks hull, which is pretty much the organist.

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fair enough.

Leant something new.

On a different thing would you regard getting a witchunter priest, who then must be added to a unit, as an upgrade if he is added to an existing unit. Also is it fair to assume that he does not count as a HQ as he does not take up a HQ slot on the force organisation chart.

Sorry to pepper with questions and posts but I am inexperienced and as I change my army list new questions pop up.

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Last edited by danfahy (2010-04-22 22:52:27)

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Where do you draw line of sight for a particle whip from a monolith? Most people (including myself, a necron player of 8 years) draw line of sight from the crystal on top of the vehicle but there is nothing official from GW on this. It's amazing that there hasn't been an official ruling for 8 years! Nothing in the codex says where the shot comes from and there is nothing to suggest a point on the model that is specifically designed to discharge a particle whip. So where?

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I have always assumed it to be the crystal and like you say I think 99.9999999% of people play with and are happy with it to be played this way.

Nature Boy

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skcuzzlebumm wrote:
I have always assumed it to be the crystal and like you say I think 99.9999999% of people play with and are happy with it to be played this way.

Fabulous. I'm amazed that GW have simply not provided a decent Necron FAQ and spoke to the refs at the GT final about getting it changed They agreed that the entire current FAQ was quote; "barmy" and they are looking into providing a new document. Hopefully things like this will not be an issue in future.

Mad Larkin Uk

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Hey neil, can i take 2 rune priests in a space wolf army since i can have 4 HQ's?

skcuzzlebumm

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Mad Larkin Uk wrote:
Hey neil, can i take 2 rune priests in a space wolf army since i can have 4 HQ's?

No as you are duplicating a HQ choice. You can take 4 HQ's, just like Daemons can take 4 Heralds if they want but you cannot duplicate anything when it comes to HQ's (so Daemons would take one Slaanesh, Tzeentch, Khorne and Nurgle).

Mad Larkin Uk

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Thats a bit poop. in order to do this, you would have to take 1 rune priest, 1 Wolf priest, 1 wolf lord and 1 WGBL.

skcuzzlebumm

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No its not its BotC its meant to be a bit of a pain and stop peoples favourite GT builds, that's why we started this tourney 5 years ago.

And you don't have to take all 4 HQ's you know Tange.

Exodite

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Neil, just a quick question about special characters. There is a specific limitaion on HQ, but does taking a special character that is under a different section of the force organisation chart have any limitations?

There doesn't seem to be, but I just thought I would ask.

skcuzzlebumm

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There isn't as IMO those crutches that can be taken as upgrades to units tend not to be that hardcore when compared to HQ ones (there is an obvious exception but I didn't want to make army specific rules where possible).

Exodite

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Fair enough, I just thought I would check.

Thanks Neil.

Just need to decide what army to take now.

skcuzzlebumm

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Grey Knights?

Exodite

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haha

I am really not sure, I have an ork list worked out, but I am seriously thinking of taking something else.

Iron_Mantis

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Take something poo Josh and see how you do it's fantastic to watch your opponents (aka Nathans's) face when you table them with a crappy list.

The Invoker

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FAQ wrote:
Elites, Fast Attack and Heavy Support choices than can be fielded in different sections of
the Force Organisation chart are separately affected by the above stipulations for each
section.
For example, Ork Warbiker units may be fielded as Troops choices when Wazdakka
Gutsmek is also fielded. In this instance, up to two Ork Warbiker units may be fielded as
Fast Attack choices and up to six Ork Warbiker units may be fielded as Troops choices.

Units that may be taken both as a dedicated transport and Elite, Fast Attack and/or
Heavy Support are an exception to the above rule count towards restrictions on duplicate
units.
For example, Ork players may have no more than 2 Battlewagons throughout their entire
army regardless of it they are selected as Heavy Support choices or dedicated transports.

What about models that can only be taken as dedicated transports? Is there a limit on those that I've missed somewhere?

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Nope no limitation

The Invoker

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Awesome, cheers for clearing that up.

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