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Ok, its *not* Man-o-War, but apparently "Dread Fleet" or as we affectionally call it around here "SeaHammer" is headed your way on the high seas. Here what we're hearing...

Take it away Lounge RumorMistress Eldargal:

It's a game in a box with two complete plastic fleets and islands in it.
Like Space Hulk, complete and unexpandable.
Lots of all new color art.

It isn't actually called Man O War, and it doesn't use the MOW mechanics, but it is a game of naval combat set in the Warhammer World, which is why I called it Man O War.

The title has an S in it, so the GW Marketing team can stay on chapter one of The ABC Marketing Book with A for Alliteration.
Seaptember
Ogretober
Necrovember

and...
OK as there seems to be some debate about what "fleets" are available try this for size.

The story is basically that the Empire get ticked off with Sartosan Vampire Pirates making off with their goods. So they assemble a dirty dozen/magnificent seven style possee to hunt them down. Each "side" (I would say fleet but that seems to be causing confusion) has around seven models. So the "sides" are Empire v Vampires, but each "side" contains iconic examples of some other races boats.

The "Empire"side has a Dwarf, Elf, Bret, Witchhunter ship and some others.
The Vampires have assorted aquatic dead icons: Ghost Ship, Egyptian Death Barge, Davy Jonez locker etc.

So there isn't a Dwarf fleet, or the possibility to build one. There's a Dwarf boat. Same for elves, and Orcs and Skaven are right outta luck.

It is a two player game with a series of linked missions like Space Hulk, so you don't use all your ships in every game.

Scale isn't WarMaster (1/300 scale, 10mm size of a foot figure), nor is it MoW. It's a size to allow the sculptors to make cool, individual boats. Like the cool individual Terminators in Space Hulk.

Some years ago there was a plan to do 28mm Sartosan Vampire Pirates. That got canned. However the Vampire Models were made and John Blanche did a crap-load of concept art. That art has been re-used for some of this.

I heard it was out in Seaptember but that was some months ago. Looks like it swapped with Ogretobre.

That's all I got,and I heard it all months ago from the mouth of a horse, so some of it may have changed.

Pre-orders start September 17th guys and gals...

~Hmm, interesting. I'm having a hard time thinking the general success of Spartan Game's Uncharted Seas has something to do with this one... So what do you think of that set of rumors gang?

jimmy

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meh - why not just play Uncharted Seas

WarbossKurgan

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Some of these rumours have already been dismissed as inaccurate but on the whole they seem to be what most of the rumour mongers are saying. There may be an Orc ship after all... There also seems to be some disagreement about the name: Dread Fleet or Seas of Blood, depending on who you ask.

To be honest I'd rather play Warhammer scale ship actions (the real meaning of Seahammer to me!) but if they make it as much fun as Space Hulk I can see myself giving it a try!

hello_dave

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Yeah, I don't see why you wouldn't just play uncharted seas either. That said I'll wait until the box or at least pictures come out before making a purchasing decision(depending on the scale and look/feel some of the Undead may find their way into a Bone Griffon fleet ).

Curis

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I dislike the Uncharted Seas models. They lack the charm, detail and character of the later Dystopian Wars stuff. I trust Workshop will do a quality job.

WarbossKurgan

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I was hoping for "Battlefleet Warhammer" / "Man-O-Warmaster" / etc - something that would allow point-valued fleets to be collected and fit into campaigns in the same way BFG and Epic can be used in WH40K campaigns.

I am interested by what the ships will look like and the book artwork - the "new" take on the naval side of the Warhammer World is something I'm obviously really looking forward to, even if it just ends up being inspiration for more 28mm scale ship building!

Though I'm not looking forward to the barrage of complaints about "too many skulls!"

jimmy

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Curis wrote:
I dislike the Uncharted Seas models. They lack the charm, detail and character of the later Dystopian Wars stuff. I trust Workshop will do a quality job.

TBH some of the early US stuff is pretty cack, but they're rereleasing a load of it with funky CAD designed stuff with stacks more detail etc.

I'm loving my Ralgard stuff

Godfather Viktor

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Now that I read that, the art at the end of Septmber WD starts to make sense...

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Last edited by Godfather Viktor (2011-09-05 13:34:15)

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jimmy wrote:
TBH some of the early US stuff is pretty cack, but they're rereleasing a load of it with funky CAD designed stuff with stacks more detail etc.

I'm loving my Ralgard stuff

The Iron Dwarves still look poo from what I have seen though.

Jeridian

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I'm with the Uncharted Seas camp- Game Workshop...meh, too little too late.

I was hoping for "Battlefleet Warhammer" / "Man-O-Warmaster" / etc - something that would allow point-valued fleets to be collected and fit into campaigns in the same way BFG and Epic can be used in WH40K campaigns

Not GW's MO anymore, other than the core games looks like they'll release limited edition all-in-one box sets like Space Hulk. I think they believe that adding Specialist Games bled customers away from the core games, meaning they had to make and design more models and games for dwindling numbers.

WarbossKurgan

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Jeridian wrote:
Not GW's MO anymore, other than the core games looks like they'll release limited edition all-in-one box sets like Space Hulk.

Yeah, I know... I can dream though can't I?

Jeridian

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Hah, so can I, so can I for Epic releases,

hello_dave

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I just hope this game does well, otherwise it might put them off doing any more.

One day they might do an Epic box, with new Marines....

Curis

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I think it's a smart move making it self-contained. Means it can be pitched as a board game rather than a wargame, so they can hit new markets.

The models will blow Spartan's offerings out of the water. Their fleets haven't floated my boat.

Dazza

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If it's an all new game (albeit perhaps jumping on the current naval game bandwagon), it's pretty encouraging that GW have spent time developing and releasing models for it.

The fact that they've done something new, rather than release an old game in order to keep their IP on oop games, could well be a glimmer of hope that there's at least a possibility of new specialist games releases.

Hopefully anyway

hello_dave

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Curis wrote:
I think it's a smart move making it self-contained. Means it can be pitched as a board game rather than a wargame, so they can hit new markets.

The models will blow Spartan's offerings out of the water. Their fleets haven't floated my boat.

They quite possibly will, but the newer CAD models look alright:

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I agree they do still lack a bit next to the Dystopian Wars stuff.

skcuzzlebumm

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Well personally I am a tad disappointed it was not some kind of re-release of Man'O'War but then I was clutching at straws with that one for the reasons Si points out.

As a random plug/offer I have 2 complete sets of the Man'O'War boxed game (less models), Sea of Blood and Plague Fleet. Don't know if any of you would be interested in taking one of the sets off my hands and resurrecting one of GW's best games amongst yourselves in Manchester (we still play it here in York so I want to keep one for myself)?

Curis

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Still the problem of no Orcs. An Orc ship without a single Orc in site. Where are the crew?

Jeridian

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That's my biggest problem with Uncharted Seas...ghost ships.

hello_dave

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Yeah would be cool to have crew models on the decks of the ships, they'd be less than 2mm tall though

Curis

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Ever seen Irregular Miniatures' 2mm Ancients ranges?

jimmy

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I looked at them but they seem a bit 'blobby' - I've ordered some of these:

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but it was from some dodgy old shop online, so god knows if they'll ever turn up.

Curis

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Corr, I remember when Xyston were the up-and-coming manufacturer. Shame Greece didn't quite catch on.

jimmy

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chased the order today after ordering it two weeks ago - "your order will be sent out this week" love dealing with little webstores :s

Dazza

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