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Well as people have now been looking through the 'dex and posting lists up i thought i put my list up. Cos for the life of me, josh and i cant find a good use of the last 30 points i have spare.

So anyway, the list is basically crippling firepower and manouverbility.

Hq command squad (so BS4) 4 melta guns, commander of the fleet - 120

10 sanctioned psykers - 110

10 penal troopers - 80

platoon command - x4 flammers - 50

Guard squad, flamer - 55

Guard squad, flamer - 55

2 valkaries, hellfury missiles, heavy bolters and multilasers - 220

3 vendettas, 3 twin linked lascannons - 390

3 vendettas, 3 twin linked lascannons - 390

30 points left.

Which is basically is:
missile launchers on the guard squads - which ill never use
fists on the officers - which ill never use
heavy bolters on the vendettas - which ill barley use
3 ratlings - which are pointless
2 bodyguards for the hq- which ill never use
an astropath - which ill never use
powerweapons all round for the platoon - s3 powerweapons?? please.
missile pods on one valkarie - but then i loose 2 of the very handy hellfury missiles

i just dont know..

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Last edited by wanderingrogue (2009-04-05 11:37:01)

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take the power weapons, never underestimate the rule of jammy luck.

Mad Larkin Uk

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Id take an astropath, for that game when your playing an army that can shoot and you get second turn. Since your vendettas are in squads, they die to immobilising hits. An astropath means you can outflank on turn 2 on a 3+ and you have a 1 in 9 chance of not arriving where you want, instead of sitting there and taking the shooting, you can outflank !

Nice list by the way, and if you can afford to buy this i salute you :p

wilsonian

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I always put a power weapon on a storm trooper sgt and you'll be impressed with it

Is this from the store codex or a PDF you've got?

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Last edited by wilsonian (2009-04-05 11:53:00)

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Store codex. so it all good

and the kidney is currently on ebay larkin.. .. the forge world open day is showing the detta conversion kits.. which is awsome.. but no clue how much its costing yet.. but still 6 is gonna sting...

the thing with throwing point as the guard squads is that i really dont intend to get them out the transports (dettas have a transport capacity too) let along get in combat.. there my scorers and will just ride and hide.

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Last edited by wanderingrogue (2009-04-05 12:40:51)

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Can i just ask why do you have a commander of the fleet and no astropath?? :p You can scout so you can outflank :-) Also why do you have the psykers if they not gonna get out of the Vendetta or w/e. Do the Skimmers have any fire points?? i cant remember. If they do, keep the psykers. If not, maybe drop them for a squad of veterns with the demolishions doctrine. Basically you get first turn, tank dies. 10 melta bomb hits :p

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commander minus's one to enemys reserve rolls, so i can piece meal armys better, i havent taken the astro as i dont want my stuff in reserve really (but i still need to play with this. i may change my mind)

the psykers are not troops so i dont mind getting them out (no scoring) and the will be a one shot weapon vs uber units (nob bikers, seer councils etc) hammer with fire power then psykers make them LD too and get them to run.. off table will be nice... just consolidating a turn way out of range.... almost as good. Will also be another pie plate vs fearless armys. .

one of the other options was to take krak greandes on the squads for that reason actually.. first turn tank killing.. but again.. this put my scorers in the open. and i have 18 las cannons for tank killing

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Last edited by wanderingrogue (2009-04-05 12:51:42)

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well 18 twin linked lascannons vs 1 land raider :p
9 hits, followed by 4.5 more, so 13.5 hits. 2.25 Penetrating + 2.25 glanceing.
So you have a 0.75 Destroyed, 0.75 immobilised. Thats with 18 Twin linked lascannons!!!! They not very good against armour 14 vehicles. Thats not even with smoke:p

Maybe you could drop the penal legion and take melta bomb veterns instead? Just to make sure that Land raider with Abbadon and berzerkers (like mine) Dies first turn for sure

wanderingrogue

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dont forget the suicide 4 melta gun command squad !! that scenario you paint is exactly what their for..

but you see this is my quandry.. the list is allllllmost there.. is just that 30 points and niggly things ... tho the vet idea isnt a bad one...

Mad Larkin Uk

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ah yea, 4got about them guys :-). And they not scoring so you can throw them away. Id love to be that imperial guard colonel. Lead from the front with suicide melta squad?? How did he ever become a colonel :p

wanderingrogue

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lol exactly..
so i have all the bases covered..the penal legion i see (with stubborn) are a nice tar pit unit for big gribblys... so still thirty points left.

commie bob

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thirty pts is not a nice number. just try that astropath for a while, or ordnance man for a pie

wanderingrogue

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im more and more tempted with the 3 ratlings now.. just to be "the spotters on the ground" and everynow and again a cheeky pinning check in conjunction with the psykers..

wanderingrogue

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ok maybe a bit of a knee jerk cos i lost but.. modified:

Hq command squad (so BS4) 4 melta guns- 90

Deamonhunter inquisitor, emperors tarot (+1 to get first turn) psychic hood, x3 plasma gunners - 140

10 sanctioned psykers - 110

10 penal troopers - 80

platoon command - x4 flammers - 50

Guard squad, flamer - 55

Guard squad, flamer - 55

1 valkarie, pods, heavy bolters and multilaser - 140

3 vendettas, 3 twin linked lascannons - 390

3 vendettas, 3 twin linked lascannons - 390

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commie bob

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what did you lose to fella.

glad you have got an anti infantry apache, thats what they do, vendetta for tanks, apache for infantry

wanderingrogue

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2 units of bike seer council :S ... eek..

wanderingrogue

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however this is the more rounded list which i was thinking off before i got bitchslapped by pointy ears..

Hq command squad (so BS4) 4 melta guns- 90

10 sanctioned psykers - 110

10 penal troopers - 80

platoon command - x4 flammers - 50

Guard squad, flamer - 55

Guard squad, flamer - 55

1 valkarie, pods, heavy bolters and multilaser - 140

3 vendettas, 3 twin linked lascannons - 390

3 vendettas, 3 twin linked lascannons - 390

Medusa, siege shells - 140

commie bob

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was looking at medusas and they are great, slap anything with the st10 ap1 shells falling into your pants.

what where the penal like in your game or did they just get spanked by council

wanderingrogue

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they didnt really factor.. they did thier job.. came in on a flank to try and contest the objective on the other side. but frankly i conceeded on turn three.. in 2 more turns they would have been paste to all the seers left..

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Last edited by wanderingrogue (2009-04-09 08:30:25)

wanderingrogue

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Also, i tried the inquis list vs chaos yesterday vs 2 warp time tzeentch princes, landies.. and marines and summoned deamons..

worked very well, i think ill do the unit.. and even if i go with the medusa the squad will make it in to the 1750 i think, along with 2 chimeras (fire points so i can keep the psykers a bit more protected)

So at the mo the full list is gonna look somthing like this:

Hq command squad (so BS4) 4 melta guns- 90

10 sanctioned psykers - 110

10 penal troopers - 80

platoon command - x4 flammers - 50

Guard squad, flamer - 55

Guard squad, flamer - 55

1 valkarie, pods, heavy bolters and multilaser - 140

3 vendettas, 3 twin linked lascannons - 390

3 vendettas, 3 twin linked lascannons - 390

+250 (1750) points:

Deamonhunter inquisitor, emperors tarot (+1 to get first turn) psychic hood, x3 plasma gunners - 140

Chimera for Sanctioned Psykers. multi laser, heavy flamer - 55

Chimera for command squad (which the inquis will perloin), multi laser, heavy flamer - 55

+250 (2000pts)

Medusa - 140

10 Veterans, demo charge, 2 flamers - 110

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Last edited by wanderingrogue (2009-04-09 15:09:24)

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thats pretty cool. demo charge for the win

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well on that note i just tried this today.. and it works raaaaaaather well.

Hq command squad (so BS4) 4 melta guns, astropath/fleet, fist - 135

10 sanctioned psykers - 110

10 penal troopers - 80

platoon command - x4 flammers - 50

Guard squad, flamer - 55

Guard squad, flamer – 55

Special weapon squad – 3 demo charges - 95

1 valkarie, pods, heavy bolters and multilaser - 140

3 vendettas, 3 twin linked lascannons - 390

3 vendettas, 3 twin linked lascannons - 390

it gives me the master of the fleet or astropath that i did keep wanting to stick in there, another scoring unit and 3 battlecannon esk shots - it also leaves me with 15 points (for now a place holder p fist in the command squad, tho this could be a bodyguard dude instead or maybe some wargear)

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What do santioned psykers do Gary?

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Psyker battle squads are mint and pretty much the 'must have' unit i think. The only problem Gary has it that valkyrie/vendettas don't have fire points so he has to get out to do anything. Hence why I want loads of chimeras in my IG!

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They are pretty nasty.... though I am not planning on taking any. So how is that special weapon team working for you?

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